Submission to God Alone

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The root of the issue

Did Jesus ever say that he was God?

Let's start with the basics: The Bible has no proof it's the inspiration of God. It's pure, blind, faith.

Unlike how Submitters have code 19 to prove the divine presence of God and His Word, the Christians don't. They have nothing similar, except conjecture.

Some will argue, "but Jesus had 500 witnesses..." and therefore think that they aren't following conjecture. Prophet Muhammad had 100,000 witnesses on his final sermon, yet look how divided the Muslims and Christians are today.

So this "witnesses" stuff cannot be used as proof of truth, especially since it was 2000 years ago. There is no proof today that what the Bible consists of is even the words of Jesus, let's go over the historical facts.

Already, there's an issue we see. The Gospels aren't even written until 30 years after the crucifixion of Jesus (and by extension, his "revival"). Unless you're unaware with how fragile human minds are, here's something to ponder on:

Try to remember what you ate only a year ago today. Thus, my point is clear. There is already this huge time gap between the crucifixion of Jesus and the writings of the Gospels. The information in the Gospels will not be 1:1 with what Jesus taught and said.

This is only logical proof. We have yet to even touch the Biblical scripture.

The Biblical scripture we have is allegedly led by the Holy Spirit as we are told in John 14:26. According to John 14:26, the Holy Spirit, sent in Jesus' name, will recall the same information to the respective authors (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John). Two of which, have never even met Jesus.

What verses cause mainstream conjecture?

What we know, in the Bible, Jesus states multiple times that he is sent by God to do God's bidding. Never once has he said anything related to: "I decided to come down in human form and spread my own words"

Now, does Jesus claim divinity? Let's reference the Bible:

Surprisingly, the only time Jesus out right claims to be of the same status as The Father would be in John, which was written 100CE, about 70 years after Jesus had died, revived, and ascended, and the last of the 4 main Gospels.

If the authors are led by the Holy Spirit in John 14:26 to have the same teachings and sayings of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit's guidance, why is John's Gospel the only one to make a claim that Jesus had said this?

Either the previous 3 authors (Mark, Matthew, and Luke) thought that Jesus claiming to be God was not anything important, or whoever attributed John a Gospel in his name, purposefully wanted to mislead others into thinking that Jesus is God.

Was Jesus the literal Son of God?

To sum this up, no.

There are multiple Sons of God in the Biblical scriptures, for example:

Now we're faced with a choice: There are multiple appointed literal sons of God, leading to mutliple Gods/Polytheism. Or: the title "son of God" is not a literal term.

There is no inbetween, you cannot pick and choose who is a son of God and say "this one is the son of God", or "this one isn't the son of God", etc. God has stated that these are His sons. Is it literal or non-literal? Multiple gods or One God?

Jesus denies being God, calling The Father, God.

The biggest of all the verses is the following:

There is no trick, Jesus is saying out right that he is not God, but instead The Father is God. There is no Godhead, he makes this distinction clear.

Did Jesus have the same words as God?

Did Jesus have the same will as God?

Did Jesus have the same power as God?

Did Jesus have the same knowledge as God?

Did Jesus have the same status as God?

So, as we see in what is "inspired by God", there holds a lot of contradictions, not even going into the informational parts yet. Jesus denies being God and calls himself God? Which one is more present? Him denying to be God or him claiming to be God?

Jesus reaffirms Monotheism, not a trinity or Godhead: Mark 12:29: "“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one."

Some Christians, (not all, like oneness or unitarians) claim that Jesus implied that he was God. From the above verses, we see that Jesus denied being God. It now leaves the Christians who believe Jesus is God to provide just one single verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God". There is no such verse, so we see from the many quotes above, that the House did not belong to Jesus, it belonged to the ONE WHO SENT him.

Was Jesus the only one to call God, his Father?

No.

The ones who believe that Jesus is the only one to call God his Father have not looked into their own faith and religion.

Jesus called God his Father, but if we look closer we see that Many Prophets called God their Father, and no Prophet including Jesus called themselves the only begotten son of God, except for David (Psalm 2:7) KJV, now let's see the Prophets who called God their Father identically to Jesus:

The term "Our Father which art in Heaven" is one of the three major forms of the address in Jewish liturgy.

(The following verse is God talking to David about Solomon)" I will be His Father and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor. (Chronicles 17:13)

Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which can not be measured or counted. In the place where it is said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living G-d. (Hosea 1:10)

The kings of Israel are referred to as sons of God because they are to be His representatives, ruling in his place on earth over His people.

"I said, You are Elokim; you are all sons of the Most High" (Psalm 82:6 )

In conclusion, we see that Jesus only said a phrase that was commonly said by Jews in his days, and Jesus did not claim to have a monopoly on son-ship with God. We are all God's children, Jesus is not the only one and never claimed to be the Begotten one.