The root of the issue
Did Jesus ever say that he was God?
Let's start with the basics: The Bible has no proof it's the inspiration of God. It's pure, blind, faith.
Unlike how Submitters have code 19 to prove the divine presence of God and His Word, the Christians don't. They have nothing similar, except conjecture.
Some will argue, "but Jesus had 500 witnesses..." and therefore think that they aren't following conjecture. Prophet Muhammad had 100,000 witnesses on his final sermon, yet look how divided the Muslims and Christians are today.
So this "witnesses" stuff cannot be used as proof of truth, especially since it was 2000 years ago. There is no proof today that what the Bible consists of is even the words of Jesus, let's go over the historical facts.
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When were the 4 main Gospels (Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John) written?
- Gospel of Mark: 65–75CE
- Gospel of Matthew: 80–90 CE
- Gospel of Luke: 80–90 CE
- Gospel of John: 90–110 CE
Already, there's an issue we see. The Gospels aren't even written until 30 years after the crucifixion of Jesus (and by extension, his "revival"). Unless you're unaware with how fragile human minds are, here's something to ponder on:
Try to remember what you ate only a year ago today. Thus, my point is clear. There is already this huge time gap between the crucifixion of Jesus and the writings of the Gospels. The information in the Gospels will not be 1:1 with what Jesus taught and said.
This is only logical proof. We have yet to even touch the Biblical scripture.
The Biblical scripture we have is allegedly led by the Holy Spirit as we are told in John 14:26. According to John 14:26, the Holy Spirit, sent in Jesus' name, will recall the same information to the respective authors (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John). Two of which, have never even met Jesus.
What verses cause mainstream conjecture?
What we know, in the Bible, Jesus states multiple times that he is sent by God to do God's bidding. Never once has he said anything related to: "I decided to come down in human form and spread my own words"
Now, does Jesus claim divinity? Let's reference the Bible:
- John 10:30: "I and the Father are one."
- John 8:58: "Before Abraham was, I am."
- John 14:9: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father."
Surprisingly, the only time Jesus out right claims to be of the same status as The Father would be in John, which was written 100CE, about 70 years after Jesus had died, revived, and ascended, and the last of the 4 main Gospels.
If the authors are led by the Holy Spirit in John 14:26 to have the same teachings and sayings of Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit's guidance, why is John's Gospel the only one to make a claim that Jesus had said this?
Either the previous 3 authors (Mark, Matthew, and Luke) thought that Jesus claiming to be God was not anything important, or whoever attributed John a Gospel in his name, purposefully wanted to mislead others into thinking that Jesus is God.
Was Jesus the literal Son of God?
To sum this up, no.
There are multiple Sons of God in the Biblical scriptures, for example:
- Exodus 4:22: "And thou [Moses] shalt say unto Pharaoh,
Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my first born." - II Samuel 7:13-14: "He [Solomon] shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father and he shall be my son."
- Jeremiah 31:9: "I am a father to Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn"
- Psalm 2:7: long before Jesus was born, "I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me [David], Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee."
- Luke3:38: "Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
Now we're faced with a choice: There are multiple appointed literal sons of God, leading to mutliple Gods/Polytheism. Or: the title "son of God" is not a literal term.
There is no inbetween, you cannot pick and choose who is a son of God and say "this one is the son of God", or "this one isn't the son of God", etc. God has stated that these are His sons. Is it literal or non-literal? Multiple gods or One God?
Jesus denies being God, calling The Father, God.
The biggest of all the verses is the following:
- John 17:3: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
There is no trick, Jesus is saying out right that he is not God, but instead The Father is God. There is no Godhead, he makes this distinction clear.
Did Jesus have the same words as God?
- John 7:16: "Jesus answered, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me."
- John 14:24: "Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me."
- John 12:49: "For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken."
Did Jesus have the same will as God?
- John 4:34: "Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work."
- John 6:38: "For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me."
- Luke 22:42: "“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”"
Did Jesus have the same power as God?
- John 5:30: "By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me."
- John 8:42: "Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me."
Did Jesus have the same knowledge as God?
- Mark 13:32: "“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
- Matthew 24:36: "“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
- John 7:16: "Jesus answered, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me."
Did Jesus have the same status as God?
- Matthew 7:21: "“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
- Mark 10:18: "“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone."
- John 8:50: "I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge."
So, as we see in what is "inspired by God", there holds a lot of contradictions, not even going into the informational parts yet. Jesus denies being God and calls himself God? Which one is more present? Him denying to be God or him claiming to be God?
Jesus reaffirms Monotheism, not a trinity or Godhead: Mark 12:29: "“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one."
Some Christians, (not all, like oneness or unitarians) claim that Jesus implied that he was God. From the above verses, we see that Jesus denied being God. It now leaves the Christians who believe Jesus is God to provide just one single verse in the Bible where Jesus says "I am God". There is no such verse, so we see from the many quotes above, that the House did not belong to Jesus, it belonged to the ONE WHO SENT him.
Was Jesus the only one to call God, his Father?
No.
The ones who believe that Jesus is the only one to call God his Father have not looked into their own faith and religion.
Jesus called God his Father, but if we look closer we see that Many Prophets called God their Father, and no Prophet including Jesus called themselves the only begotten son of God, except for David (Psalm 2:7) KJV, now let's see the Prophets who called God their Father identically to Jesus:
- ".....What shall I do when my heavenly Father hath so commanded me ? (Sifra to Lev; Qedoshim 20, 26)
- "....Since I have done the will of Abba who is in the Heavens "(Lev R para 32)
- "I will exalt the lord saying 'thou art my father" (ibid 51:10)
- "......These buffetings have made me Love my heavenly father" (Midr.Tehillim 12:5)"
- "Beloved are Israel for they are called Son of the Highest" (Aboth 3:3)
- "But thy providence O Father Governeth it" (Wis. 14:3)
- "O Lord, Father and governor of all my life.."(Eccl 23:1)
- "O Lord , Father and G-d of my life.."(Eccl 23:4)
**lets now see what the Jews wrote in their Apocryphal books .
The term "Our Father which art in Heaven" is one of the three major forms of the address in Jewish liturgy.
(The following verse is God talking to David about Solomon)" I will be His Father and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor. (Chronicles 17:13)
Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which can not be measured or counted. In the place where it is said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living G-d. (Hosea 1:10)
The kings of Israel are referred to as sons of God because they are to be His representatives, ruling in his place on earth over His people.
"I said, You are Elokim; you are all sons of the Most High" (Psalm 82:6 )
In conclusion, we see that Jesus only said a phrase that was commonly said by Jews in his days, and Jesus did not claim to have a monopoly on son-ship with God. We are all God's children, Jesus is not the only one and never claimed to be the Begotten one.